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Everyone has to start somewhere. These are common suggestions for a "first ______" - but keep in mind this list doesn't contain the ONLY choices you can make, but they're all here for a reason. Chances are, affordability, availability (both of the firearm and the ammunition it uses) and ease of use/reliability are all factors being considered here, with some taking priority over others. Remember: It's your responsibility to pick out the right one for YOU.
Factors that you should take into account are;
- Does the gun feel right in my hand?
- Am I able to comfortably afford the firearm and the ammunition it fires?
- How common is the ammunition my firearm is chambered in? Is Reloading an option both financially and personally?
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Pistols
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Ruger Mk. II
.22lr Semi-Automatic production pistol
- Pros
- Extremely Accurate
- Ammo is very cheap and plentiful
- Easily upgradable
- Available in different styles to suit your tastes and needs
- Used ones can be bought cheap
- Very light trigger pull.
- Low recoil
- Cons
- Can be somewhat expensive to buy brand new,
- Reassembling the pistol can be tricky
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Ruger Mk. III
Ruger Mark III with loaded chamber indicator, Picatinny Rail for easy optics mounting, assorted other faggotry
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Springfield XD
- Pros
- Inexpensive
- Available in wide range of calibers (9mm, .40, .45, etc)
- Very Comfortable in your tender widdle hands
- Cons
- Stainless version rusts if you look at it.
- Made in the former Croatia - now with more ETHNIC CLEANSING!
- Springfield Armory is a bunch of faggots.
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Walther P22
Sub/Micro-compact semiautomatic .22lr pistol
- Pros
- Inexpensive
- Super-cheap ammo
- 1911-style grip angle
- Makes transition to a P99 easy if you're made of money.
- Extremely comfortable in tiny hands.
- Teaches proper handling of failures easily.
- Cons
- Failure-prone
- Feels like a toy once you've handled a "real" gun.
- Walther is no longer capable of making reliable weapons.
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Glock 17
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CZ-75B and other models
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Makarov
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Browning Buckmark
Full-sized .22LR semi-automatic based on a blowback action.
Pros
- Very easy to field-strip for maintenance by .22 pistol standards
- Excellent ergonomics
- Not very picky about ammo
- Very good accuracy
- Grip feels like a 1911's grip
Cons
- Factory trigger is acceptable, but not great
- Aftermarket is not as extensive as Ruger .22s
- More expensive than Ruger .22s
===Revolver=== chambered in .357 Magnum (e.g. Ruger GP100 or Smith & Wesson Model 686)
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Rifles
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Ruger 10/22
- .22LR semi-automatic production rifle
- Price: As low as $50 used, around $200 brand new
- Pros:
- All the cool kids have one. If you don't, you will probably not be invited to birthday parties and/or gunmeets.
- Dirt cheap ammunition
- Easily upgradable - many many aftermarket accessories and parts
- .22LR is so cheap
- Cons:
- There are no cons; this is the gateway drug of guns
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CZ 452/453
- .22LR bolt-action production rifle
- Price: $220 new for the Trainer model, $350 new for "standard" Varmint/American/Lux models
- Pros:
- Very accurate out of the box, probably the most accurate for its price league
- Overall very high quality, praised by the majority of .22LR rifle shooters
- .22LR is so cheap
- Cons:
- For some, the price compared to the "other" bolt action
- Relatively expensive magazines, $23-25 retail
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Savage 93R17
- .17HMR bolt action magazine fed production rifle
- Price: $200-$500 depending on configuration
- Pros:
- Stupidly accurate out of the box
- AccuTrigger
- Scope mounts included with rifle, just add scope and rings
- .17HMR ammo is "match grade" and hell on wheels for varmint control
- Cons:
- Savage rifle are not known for their beauty
- Detachable magazines are not flush with body of the rifle
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Marlin Model 60
- .22LR semi-auto rifle
- Price : Around $120-130 new, $50-90 used
- Pros:
- Older models hold more rounds, but are generally cheaper.
- New models have a hold-open feature, allowing you to store the weapon in a condition that allows you to easily inspect the chamber
- All manners of parts are interchangeable between the various models
- Simple, easy to use and friendly to maintain.
- Older "micro-groove" stamped MM60s have a more accurate rifling
- Grooved receiver easily accepts a scope
- Cons:
- Tube mag is a pain to load without a tube mag speed-loader.
- It wasn't made to be customizable
- Newer models only hold 14 rounds
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Marlin 981T
- .22LR bolt-action production rifle
- Price: Around $150 new
- Pros:
- Spacious tubular magazine: 25 rounds of .22 Short, or 19 rounds of .22 Long, or 17 rounds of .22 Long Rifle
- Versatile: can fire Short, Long, and Long Rifle .22 Ammunition
- Relatively accurate
- .22LR is so cheap
- Cons:
- Tube mag not as easy to load as a 10/22's
- Trigger is supposedly shitty but can easily be fixed with a pencap spring, look up "marlin trick" on rimfirecentral
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Marlin 925
- .22LR bolt-action production rifle
- Price: Around $150 new
- Pros:
- Detachable 7 round magazine (10 round magazines can also be bought for about $12-15)
- Relatively accurate
- Inherently more accurate than the 981T due to detachable magazine design
- Overall a very good quality and accurate rifle for its price tag, a healthy alternative to the CZ 452 if money is an issue
- .22LR is so cheap
- Cons:
- Not as accurate as the CZ 452 :-P
- Detachable magazines are not flush with body of the rifle
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SKS
- 7.62 x 39 semi-automatic milsurp rifle
- Pros:
- Easy takedown, easy cleaning
- Cheap ~$90-200 depending on condition.
- Lots of aftermarket stuff with which to rice it out: synthetic stocks, drop-in scope mounts, magazine adapters
- Yugoslavian 59/66 has a grenade launcher which can shoot tennis balls with blanks and a proper adapter
- Cons:
- The sights can be pretty rough, but that's part of the fun
- Ammo is on the increase (expect 12-18 cents per round, about twice as much as it was a year ago)
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Other military surplus rifles (feel free to add specific ones)
- Various calibers, various actions, mostly all out of current production
- Pros:
- Can be very inexpensive; both in terms of the actual gun and ammo
- Military guns are, as a rule, rugged as fuck
- Cool features like use of stripper clips, etc...
- Again, historic value. This might come in handy if you need to justify your habit to a spouse or significant other.
- Cons:
- Cosmoline: we may have won the Cold War, but communism still got the last laugh
- Some are in pretty rough shape and might require some refinishing if you want to be seen in public with them
- Some use weird ammo that you will have to scour the internet to find
- Mismatched serial numbers, for you obsessive-compulsives out there
- Corrosive ammo means that you will need to clean (or at least deal with it) immediately after you finish shooting
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Rifles for people who want to hit things at very long range
- Savage Rifles
- Super Inexpensive, and pretty fucking high quality
- Available in just about every caliber
- Available in lefty versions
- Remington 700
- Pros:
- Available in a wide variety of configurations and calibers, from tacticLOL synthetic marksman's variants to wood-stocked deer rifles
- Stupidly easy to clean
- Dead-on balls accurate
- Cons:
- Expensive
- Comes exclusively in "large" calibers, which means recoil is a factor
- A precision rifle is no good without a good shooter, so newbies still may not hit anything
- Generally requires a scope, which adds cost
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Shotguns
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People who like to customize every single part (and have 93,000 options to do it with)
- AR-15
- Pros:
- Low recoil
- (Relatively) cheap ammunition
- Cons:
- Expensive
- Ammo tends to disappear in a hurry. A big hurry.
- Difficult to clean
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- 1911
- Pros:
- Solidly built
- Many variants and manufacturers available
- Cons:
- Expensive ammo (cheap stuff is roughly $20 per 100
- Recoil is considerable
- Pros:
- Ruger 10/22 (see above)
again, this is primarily a placeholder page. Examples of why you would suggest a Mosin or 10/22 or whatever to a newbie would be great, and/or other suggestions --Psion 04:46, 6 April 2006 (BST)
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